MILSAP Updates, December 23, 2016


Well, it’s been 5 weeks since our last post and the holidays are almost here! It is finally Winter and for the past week or two, the weather has been suitably wintry. Last month we learned of a new, lost area, and this month we have another new one and the possibility of a third! Merry Christmas to us. We have also received 14 new comments on our pages and a slew of activity on our Facebook page.

Our new area came from a Facebook post–Russell’s Ridge near Hart. It was mentioned in a post on Facebook and confirmed by an article in the Detroit Free Press dated October 27, 1968 which listed it as a new area scheduled to open that season. Another Facebook comment seemed to indicate it was closed in the winter of 1970, so perhaps it didn’t last long. If you know anything about skiing at Russell’s Ridge, please help us out.

Daryl Turcott replied to Trish Ellis on the Mt. Grampian page that he knew Marty, Marylou, and Elizabeth Ellis and lived down the street. Marc replied to Brad “Hoser” Miller on the Mott Mountain page that he just drove by the area today (11/18) and thought it was a cool place. Terry Feldman Keatley commented about Apple Mountain that she broke her leg there when she was 10 (51 years ago). She remembers skiing with her sisters, apples, cider, warm donuts and the slopes. Now lived in Colorado where the slopes are on mountains. Craig Bronson commented about Kandahar that he remembers breaking a leg on Chicken Ridge, his favorite hill was Apache (before they widened it) and he remembers crock-pots plugged in all over and stealing dad’s beer from the snowbank.

Jay commented on our Sugar Loaf page that there is a new owner. There were a number of announcements on Facebook that the may have plans to re-open it as a 4-season resort. However, on a tour of the property, he announced that “hammers will not swing” for at least two years. We look forward to returning the Loaf to our list of Current Ski Areas as soon as possible.

Bob asked on our Thunder Mountain page when it opened and if Herb Walker was the first manager. Bill Behse replied that it opened in ’57 and Joe and Donna Behse, the principal owners were the first managers. Eric Harder replied to Will Stebbins on the Lansing Ski Club page that Mr. Stebbins took him and Chuck Yost on a ski trip to the UP in the ’60s. Eric remembers learning to ski at LSC with Tom Green.

Bob Wiest says he skis at Big M a few times every year; he uses the x/c trails to access the slopes. It’s a blast to ski the hills on the newer fat nordic skis, telemark style, although you can also use regular x/c gear or snowshoes. Chris Morely replied to Ben Dancer on the Skyline page that he remembers going with Ben to Mike Russell’s ski camp in Tennesee. Jessica Hartlein commented on the Tyrollean Hills page that the log cabin was at the bottom of the chairlift, but has been gone for 10 or 20 years. She thinks the pool was filled in. Terry Edwards replied to kapollock asking if she remembered Snow Valley.

Terry also commented on our Brighton Ski Jumps page that in 1958, Steamboar Springs was celebrating an anniversary. They were looking for people who had won competitions there in days past. Terry located Henry and Clarence Hall, famous jumpers from Detroit and the UP. Henry had set a record at Steamboat many years before. The Ford Ski Club sponsored the brothers’ trip to Steamboat and henry took his jumping skis. They wouldn’t let him jump on the Holmenkollen jump where he had set his record, but his did jump on a practice jump.

Finally, Rex replied to Kyle V on the Bald Eagle page that his family owned property on Herringbone Ridge in Clarkston. He wondered it that was the same area as Bald Eagle. Can anyone help with this? Do we have another lost area in SE Michigan? Please let us know.

In the mean time, we hope everyone has a happy, snowy Holiday Season and thinks about the good times they may have enjoyed at Michigan ski areas in days gone by.

Bob Knox, Publisher
Michigan Lost Ski Areas Project

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MILSAP Updates, November 15, 2016


Well, it’s been just over a month again since our last update and we have received news of a new lost ski area as well as 16 comments and emails of patches and pins. Ski season is rapidly approaching, so we may have a chance to get out and see some of those lost areas (or even ski them, if the are not posted).

We got an email from Mark B. Snider with a picture of a Mission Hills ski patch. Apparently, Mission Hills was an earlier name for the area we had identified as Iroquois Mountain outside of Sault Ste. Marie. If you have any information about this area, please post it on our new ski area page for Mission Hills. Mark also sent us an intriguing picture of a wall full of old ski patches. He has promised to send individual pictures when he gets home from the trip he is on.

We have also learned of a new lost ski areas website for Wisconsin! When we get a chance to check it out, we will post a link on our resources page. Good luck, guys.

Hill or Stream posted on our Sugar Loaf page that they want to know the vertical. Does anyone out there have the stats for the Loaf? Jay also commented with a news article about Sugar Loaf changing hands and we have received a couple of posts on our Facebook page recently that the Loaf that the new owner is planning to re-open it. We will keep you apprised.

On the Brady’s Hills page, Pam Mork replied to Aaron Besemer asking him if he is related to the VP of Timberlee Hills? Ken McClellan replied to Tom Fullerton on the Elbert Mountain page that the hang gliding hill is not the same as the old ski jumping hill, but is further south; you have to drive down the beach and climb it from the front. The top of the ski jumping hill can be reached from town.

Jon Mann commented about Lansing Ski Club that he attended MSU in ’79 and started teaching skiing there. He moved his teaching to Alpine Valley Michigan in ’80 and now teaches at Stevens Pass, Oregon. He tells a funny story about “borrowing” his boss’s goggles from a bench in the lodge on a snowy night when he broke his own goggles. Will Stebbins responded to Jon that his dad, Rolly, formed the club in ’48 with about 10 other guys from Lansing when they purchased the land. They lost it in bankruptcy in ’85 due to debt incurred from the over-the-top chairlift, snowmaking, and the year-round athletic club. He is writing a history of the ski area. John Baumer remembers a ski trip to LSC from Lansing Eastern HS that got him skiing all through high school. He now skis 4-5 times per week.

Bob Morris wrote on our Mt. Brighton page that his dad, Don Morris, was a patroller at Brighton in the 60’s and 70’s. He had many great times there and remembers a run called Big Riskey and a guy named Ferris Steinhauser. Bob also thanked us on the MILSAP Updates page for providing all these memories. You’re welcome, Bob.

On our Hansen Hills page, Kristen Grierson asked whatever happened to the polyhedron lodge? Anyone out there know? Dave Cook left a comment on our Avalanche Peak page that AP was the name of the area when it was owned by Boyne City. His dad, David E Cook, purchased it in ’58/’59 and renamed it Barn Mountain. A double chair was installed in ’67 and the area went to bankruptcy in ’69. Ev Kircher of Boyne bought it and eventually gave the property back to Boyne City with a covenant that it never be redeveloped for downhill skiing. Dave says there are stunning views from the top–I concur.

Mark Holston commented on the Tyrollean Hills page that he doesn’t remember the pool and the log cabin. Keith Pollock, son of the ’70s owners, replied that the pool, sauna, and rental shop were added in the ’70s. They also added night skiing and the back hills with the Poma tow.The pool was on the left side of the lodge and the ski shop and lounge in the front. The log cabin warming hut was torn down by a subsequent owner in the ’80s. The “Ford” log cabin on the banks of the Black River was dismantled and relocated outside of Otsego County.David Tubbs responded to Keith that his parents knew Keith’s and he has fond memories of the area and many of the people who owned chalets there. Susan Ayres-Genovesi commented that of the people mentioned, only the Dunnigans still own land there.

Kenneth N Collier left a comment on our Skyline page that he happened upon this area and it looked like a ghost town with vintage chairlifts with wooden seatbacks and old tow ropes and wheels still in place. A ski area where time stands still.

Please keep those comments coming to our blog and check out our Facebook page where we are also posting notices of up-coming ski swaps and sales, when we find out about them, and deals on lift tickets and passes. Soon, we hope to advise our followers about ski area openings as the weather turns more seasonably cold.

Bob Knox, Publisher
Michigan Lost Ski Areas Project




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MILSAP Updates, October 11, 2016


It has been a little over a month since our last post and we have received 15 new comments on our site and a LOT of emails, some with pictures, from Robert Sisco. Some of his emails with pictures have come through without the pictures, so we haven’t posted them yet, although other pictures have been received just fine. We are working to resolve the problem.

As our Michigan foliage changes color and the prettiest part of autumn descends upon our state, we look forward to a new season of snowsports even as we sit around the fireplace and reflect on winters long past and ski areas long remembered.

David Tubbs commented a reply to susangenovesi on our Tyrollean Hills page that he wants to sell a lot at the old ski area. Jessica Hertlein also sent a reply to Renee on the same page. Ted Perreault asked on the Fonro page if the Ro in Fonro stood for Ronains? He mentioned that in addition to skiingat Fonro, he often skied at Mt. Holly with the Shrine HS ski club (and that he still skis regularly at Mt. Holly). David Fons replied to Ted that the Ro in Fonro stood for Don Rosenbach who was a partner with Jerry and Wally Fons. He noted that the Rosenbachs were great supporters of Shrine HS. He also corrected Art and Marion’s last name to Suddon, not Sutton. Dan Boyer commented on the Mio Mountain page that the area is NOT for sale, but if you have about $1.5 million too invest to reopen it, he would like to hear from you.

John Roeser said on the Brady’s Hills page that in 1956 he made trips there with the Grand Rapids junior high ski club and remembers “boot-packing” the hill by sidestepping in the mornings after a big snowfall. (I remember doing this at Snow Valley in the late 60’s). He later joined the ski patrol at Boyne and then opened a ski shop at Vail. Judy Weighman Daines said that she and her friend Deb went to Timberline every weekend and that’s where she learned all her skills. Suzanne Carpenter commented that her family skied at Big M throughout the ’60’s. Her dad and uncle owned it for part of that time. She remembers the rope tow, her first ride up the t-bar, polka music on the speakers, great burgers and the big fireplace.

Bob Sisco commented on several pages that he emailed pictures, including Grayling Winter Sports Park, Skyline, Misaukee Mountain, and Echo Valley. Unfortunately, except for Echo Valley, the emails came through without the pictures. I have added a new gallery to the Echo Valley page with some of the pictures he sent of his trip there with his grandsons.They have a great display in the lodge of ole picture and news clippings of skiing there and especially ski jumping, as well as old equipment (skis and even an old bobsled!). Bob has resent some of the pictures and they are now coming through. We will add more to the site as I get them sorted out.

Denise Bosbous asked about the lake Shore Ski Club if it ever had a ski jump. I have no information about that, but many early area, particularly in the UP dis have jumps, so it is a possibility. If you know anything about a ski jump or “ski slide” at Lake Shore, please let us know with a comment or an email.

By the way, in a clipping on the wall at Echo Valley, Bob Sisco saw a mention of an area called MadCap in the Cadillac area. We had not hears of MadCap before. If you know anything about skiing at MadCap, please let us know that, too, so we can add it to our list of lost ski areas.

Please keep those comments coming to our blog and check out our Facebook page where we are also posting notices about upcoming ski sales and ski swaps, when we find out about them. We love to hear more about the old days (and modern days) of skiing in Michigan. But now that summer is long gone and the foliage is changing color form shades of green to yellows, golds, and reds you can start anticipating the coming ski season. The early projections are for COLD and SNOW due to the water temperatures in the Pacific.

Bob Knox, Publisher
Michigan Lost Ski Areas Project

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MILSAP Updates, September 6, 2016

Another three months (almost) since the last post. Where does the time go? We have had 19 comments left for you since the beginning of July, many of them replies to other comments on the same ski areas. We love to see those exchanges about old friends and old times.

One of our more popular areas this summer has been Tyrolean Hills. Renee M replied to Susan and Jessica about grandparents and friends. Susan Genovesi replied to Renee about the old days. Keith Pollock replied to Eric that he would have liked to be there for Alpenfest. Susan Ayres Genovesi replied to Jessica and Keith about the current trail restriction legal problems and the ownership of the old lodge buildings. Everyone deplores the state of disrepair and wishes the area could still be open.

Carole Rogers replied to David about Silver Valley, asking if he knew when they moved the cross and the chapel (at the campground)? John Anthony Neslusan said he used to play bass in the band Canada Goose that played at Bear Mountain in the early ’70s and he met many fine people there. Larry commented about Sylvan Knob that all the lifts converge at the top which makes it a great area for families.

Merry Lou Loyer mentioned that her parents owned the Look Out Inn across the road from the Paul Bunion Memorial. She said there were no tows left on the old ski area across the road, but her brother used to climb the hill and ski down. Merry Lou also commented on the Greenbush Inn that the toboggan run was still reachable in the late ’60s and early ’70s from Everett Rd, west of US-23 north of Greenbush. She said that Schmidt also had the golf course and Saradella Dairy farm that are now part of the Lakewood Shores Resort. The old barns are still there on Cedar Lake Rd. just south of the Iosco/Alcona line. Larry also commented on the Greenbush Inn that his family vacationed there in ’65 and he has pictures of the dining room, tennis courts, and the pools. We’d like to see them, Larry, if you’d care to share them. Ken says he lived there summers with his family (his father worked there) from ’60 to ’65. He, too, would like to see Larry’s pictures. I should mention that we are still looking for evidence that Greenbush Inn ever had a ski tow or lift which might make it one of the earliest alpine ski areas in Michigan.

Paul Williams replied to Martin on the Briar hills page that he used to live across the field from the ski area. He also commented that he misses the many good times. Don’t we all, Paul. Rich Drouillard commented on Snow Valley that he learned to ski there as a teen. His mom was a nurse in Saginaw, and she took care of the son of a ski instructor from Snow Valley who had been seriously injured in an accident. His family was treated extremely well at Snow Valley.

Sandra McFarlin says she and her husband bought the former Dryden ski lodge property in the ’70s after it had been heavily vandalized. They remodeled what was left of the lodge into their home, although it no longer resembles the old structure. She would like any pictures of the old ski lodge.

Please keep those comments coming to our blog and check out our Facebook page. We love to hear more about the old days (and modern days) of skiing in Michigan. But now that summer is drawing to a close, although you wouldn’t know it from the temperature today, you can start anticipating the coming ski season. The early projections are for COLD and SNOW due to the water temperatures in the Pacific.

Bob Knox, Publisher
Michigan Lost Ski Areas Project

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MILSAP Updates, July 12, 2016

Well, it has been three months since our last post–way too long. My only (valid) excuse (besides laziness) has been several trips to the north country to enjoy my summer passion–fly fishing. However, we have had 27 comments since the last summary, so here goes:

Bob Sisco fixed his bad link to the Grand Haven Ski Bowl website. Scott Coffin commented on the Greenbush Inn page that his father was born in and lived in the house across the street until WWII. Jackie Thayer Culp said her parents, Fern and Virgil Thayer, were friends with the Ashes at Glacier Hills. Her first wooden skis with Cubco bindings were purchased from Mr. Ash. Jordon Seaver left current directions to the old Grand Valley State College ski hill. He says it’s still great for sledding. Torr Williams replied to Clay McNitt on the Briar Hill page that he would like to play tag on the hill again. Ron Osborne says he worked one week during the summer at Mio Mt. helping Charlie build a rope tow control shack and tow it up the hill.

Paul commented that he explored the (ruined) Silverbell lodge in the ’90s. Mark Kimmerly wants pictures from Silverbell. Sandy Horn grew up on the farm down the road from Mt. Grampian; her brother’s funeral was on the mountain. Jack Pippin left a story about learning to ski at Mt. Christie. He’s now director of Children’s Programming for the ski school at Heavenly in Tahoe. Kyle V commented that he lives on Ski Park Road in Clarkston and has been told that his home used to the the lodge for Bald Eagle. G. Dunkel skied every weekend with the Dunlops at Kandahar. He broke a tip on his Olin MkIVs on the old ski jump (and tore the binding off the other one). Tony D asked for more pictures from Kandahar, particularly interior shots.

Lon Duncan replied to Greg that he used to live across the road from the ski jump at Forest Avenue and Ski Hill Road. He wondered if that was where the Crystella Ski Hill was. Carpenter5050 replied that it is. He says the jump scaffold has been down for many years. Lon says he hasn’t been there since 1965.

Betsy replied to Davis on the Royal Valley page that she remembers that his dad and her dad were on the ski patrol together. David Siekman said she was just a little rascal. Jamie Gibbard remembered Pleasant Valley in the 1950s and 1960s with many good memories and Scott Stillings commented on his memories.

David Ragan, Jr. replied to Carolyn on the Skyline page that he grew up skiing there the same time as her kids. Marcia Forsman Wiggington says she skied there every winter from 1950 to 1968 and has many fond memories. Carolyn Nye Boyd remembered David Ragan and his church group and still has a letter her dad wrote to their pastor to tell him how impressed he was with their behavior.

Ilsa Elkhardt posted on our ski area patches and pins page that she would like  patches for Willard and Maple Ridge. These happen to be ski areas in eastern upstate New York, but if any of you can help her out, please do so.

A website called, which has a  section devoted to poaching lines, has published an article about poaching at Avalanche Peak/Barn Mountain and included a link to our history of the Barn Mountain site.

Finally, Jay Moore left a note to thank us for publishing these memories of old ski areas in Michigan. You’re welcome, Jay, thanks for visiting and please tell your friends about us.

Please keep those comments coming to our blog and check out our Facebook page. We love to hear more about the old days (and modern days) of skiing in Michigan. But now that summer has been here for a good three weeks, you can start thinking SNOW! for the coming season. The early projections are for COLD and SNOW due to the temperature of the Pacific.

Bob Knox, Publisher
Michigan Lost Ski Areas Project

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MILSAP Updates, April 12, 2016


Well, I have to hand it to you. On February 24, I asked you to THINK MORE MICHIGAN SNOW and you DID. Last week was the first week of April and winter returned to Michigan. We still have a few ski areas operating in both peninsulas and the X-C trails are is great condition for April. In the last month and a half, we have received 19 new comments on our pages.

Scott Barrett commented that the Jack Pine Valley property was for sale but is now off the market. Michael Byers commented on the Circle TNT page (another name for the same area) that he skied there and worked in the shop and as a snowmaker–it was eerie walking the hills late at night. Scott Barrett asked if the river fed the snow guns. William Deater commented on Jack Pine Valley that it was built by Doug Conlan and Bob Quaine in the early ’60s and that Fred Warshefske and his sons built the lodge. The land was part of the Conlan family farm. Scott Barrett asked William if he was related to the family that owned the store in Blaine.

Jim Clark commented on the Thunderbowl Ski Area page that he has a patch from the Thunderbowl Ski Club and wonders if they are related. Richard Stubbs remembers in ’56 (or ’57 or ’58) he met Hugo Bohm at Ski Village in Waters. Hugo was a legendary ski instructor. Bob Sisco left a couple comments on the Grand Haven Ski Bowl page linking to the Petoskey Community page.

Barry “Buz” Haltenhoff commented on the Iroquois Mountain page about Mike Porcarelli and his siblings–all great skiers and racers. He thinks they wventually moved to Whitfish, Montana.  He also commented on Bryces Hill that he learned to ski and race there on the old rope tow–the old auto wheel pulleys are still there. He remembers that in ’64-65 the new warming hut was opened and the access road was moved from the top of the area to the base. On January 28, ’65, lights were installed and night skiing was introduced.

Robert Kort started skiing at Carousel Mountain at the age of 8 or 9, Later he skied every night after school. When he grew up, he left for Aspen to become a ski bum (maybe he didn’t grow up–lucky him). Profesorav (Karen Vocke) posted on the Frys Winter Sports Park page that the Vanished Kalamazoo site shows parts of ski jumps at Campbell Lake Park. Possibly Google Earth shows the remains of the jumps and ski runs.

G Luthy commented about Kandahar that he thinks there was a 2nd Kandahar, the Kandahar Barn, at the edge of the Jordan River Valley, owned by someone called “Chip?” He thinks someone once wanted to make it into a “super” resort.

Dave Brackett said on the Mt. Holly page that he remembers skiing and racing for the Southfield team at Mt. Holly. Daryl Turcott posted a link to Youtube for a video he made about Mt. Christie (and gave MILSAP a plug!). Dan Brown commented on the Mt. Christie lodge that his dad, a 10th Mountain vet, took him and his siblings there before they could drive.  Thaddeus Sienkiewicz invited anyone interested in Teeple Hill to come out on May 14, for the Rosebud Revival at highland State Recreation Area. You can see all the restoration that has been done at the site.

Finally, Susan Walker commented that her mother had a ski magazine called “Snow”  in the ’60s and was a ski editor for other publications. She said she could send us ski memorabilia. I told her we would be pleased to receive and show you whatever she could send us.


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MILSAP Updates, February 24, 2016


Sorry to have been so lax about posting, but it HAS been winter (at least most of the time), and I have been skiing, both in Michigan and back east in Vermont (where the winter hasn’t been too wintry either). As I finish writing this in the patrol room at a south east Michigan ski area, the wind is whistling and heavy snow is falling. Winter is back. We have received 72 new comments since our last update at the end of last year, including two new hints about new “lost” ski areas. I haven’t actually located the new areas, yet, but here’s the summary of the comments:

snofri commented on our Skiing History Resources page about the US Ski and Snowboard Hall of Fame in Ishpeming and about the 129th annual Ski Jumping Tourney which was just held at Suicide Hill. She also left several informative comments about the Kandahar Ski Club, including the information that they had ski jumping at the Pontiac Lakes location prior to the move to Fenton. She also left reminiscences on the Sheridan Valley page. Ellen asked how much it costs to ski down the running hill by Teal Lake at Al Quaal.

Cynthia Stewart left a Canadian skiers memories on the Dryden page and lamented the loss of the fabulous ski lodge. Another Canadian, Mark Clotier, remembersx skiing at Iroquois Mountain because the season passes were $35, a lot cheaper than Searchmont. He also remembers the blizzards blowing in from Lake Superior. Trish Ellis left good memories of Mt. Grampian. Daryl Turcott went to the Dryden site and posted a video on YouTube. (He also did Silverbell, Grampian, and Christie. Check his comment on the Dryden page for the link).

Dennis Penrod commented on the TimberLee Hills page about the White tractor they were loaned to demo as a groomer and returned in pieces after it rolled down the hill. Char Portega commented on the Snow Valley page that Indianhead also had a lodge at the top (actually not uncommon in parts of Michigan). He was replied to by Doug Leppart.

Jimmy commented that he has an old “body” board (backboard?) marked Royal Valley at the foot end, and would like more information about it. David Siekman said he would like to see a picture of it and Jimmy said he didn’t know how to post it. We told him to send it to us via the directions on the About MILSAP page. professorav (Karen Vocke) mentioned that there is a video of Echo Valley on the “Vanished Kalamazoo Facebook group from sometime in the early 1950’s (judging from the cars in the parking lot) which shows not only the  ski jump, but also people holding skis and skiing down the hill. Clearly, there was downhill skiing. Not sure about a ski lift or tow, though.

Tor Brunvand commented that he skied the Stebbins’ backyard using the old, portable rope tow before it was moved to the Lansing Ski Club. Win Stebbins, son of Rolly, a founder of the LSC in ’48, chimed in to say he is writing a history of the club. If you comment on their page, he may contact you!

Michael Schrotenboer commented on the Carousel page that he worked there as cleanup and “chief dishwasher”. He also commented on the Firsts page that he has a couple of the first Snurfers. Bill Bonkowski replied asking him if he would sell one. Evan replied to Jeff Brosch about Carousel Mtn. that he was there last year and to Michael Samis that the frame of the lift is still there, too. Bill also commented on Firsts with a lot of good information about Hanson Hills dating back to 1921, the Hanson family, and Bear Mountain. He invited us to contact Hanson Hills for more information about their claim to be “first”.

Keith Pollock commented on Tyrolean Hills that his family owned parts of the area along with the Lipperts during the Pinnacles era, then bought it and renamed it Tyrolean Hills and expanded operations year-round. It was very successful, but they sold due to a family tragedy and he hated to see it deteriorate. Tim asked on the Tyrollean Hills page if any remembered Dugan. Katherine Doyle commented that she is the daughter of Eunice and Ron Chavey and recognized her mother’s picture on the Sylvan Knob page as a ski patrol candidate.

John says that he skied Thunder Mountain in the early 60’s as a local and preferred it to Nub’s, Boyne, and Walloon. Patricia J. Dunston also had season passes to Thunder in the 60’s. She says they used to jump when they got on the Poma and it would pull her 4 feet off the ground. She still lives in the area. Chad Portenga replied to Trucker Mack on the Thunder page that several hills in the Boyne area would be great ski hills if Everett Kircher hadn’t closed them, not just Avalanche Peak.Chad also commented on the Grand haven Ski Bowl page that the bowl is contained in the Mulligan’s Hollow recreation area.Pat Myers-Featherstone commented on the Barn Mountain page that Everett Kircher bought Avalanche Peak and re-named it Barn Mountain Then he found out that he didn’t own the lots with road access. He donated the property to Boyne City with the condition that it never be developed as a ski resort.

King Daniel His Royal Highness commented that he is the heir to the Kingdom of Schuss, living in exile in Bloomfield Hills. He posted lots of memories of Schuss. Lisa Draper replied to Scooter on the Schuss page that she’s still racing. Westin Howland replied to King Daniel HRH that he remembers the old king pinning a broken bone club pin on him when he was in the 8th grade. He also remembers the Spence Bock Racing Camp.

Victoria Kiefer commented on the Bloomer Ski Jump page that her father Bruce Kent Frank made many jumps at Bloomer with the Hill brothers and replied to Alison Suzanne White that she’s her cousin. cudagirl1 replied to Victoria, “Hello, cousin.” Susan Brown Johnson commented on the Bloomer SJ page that her dad set the record on the new slide in ’37 at the age of 21, and in ’39, he and Tessmer went off it side-by-side. She also commented on the Brighton SJ page that her dad was one of the Rochester Boys and jumped there many times. She also says she has a jumping trophy her dad won at Petoskey Winter Sports Park in the early ’20s (he must have been about 6 or 7 years old at the time, but that’s not impossible).

deb johnson asked Don Tyrrell on the Mt. Christie page when his father patrol there. Pete Bechard remembers the music scene at Silverbell Village. Bill D says he developed an appreciation for snow-covered hills at Jack Pine Valley–because the hills there were seldom snow-covered. Jan Althoff-Pas remembers the sound and feel of the blasting to blow up the hill at Kandahar.

Bob Sisco commented that Pando is closed this season after being bought by Cannonsburg. They say they will re-open it, so we’re not moving it to the “lost” list just yet.

Stephen Kinn speculated on the Teeple Hill page about the source of the name. Pam Sienkiewicz responded with information from the original plat maps, now located in the Historic Wisner Home in Pontiac, that the (lake) name started as “Steeple,” then morphed to “Teeples” and finally “Teeple.”

Dave says that he would like to see the Sugar Loaf area re-opened and that he would be willing to make an 8-10% stake. Todd agreed that he would like to see the Loaf run again. Clay McNitt has great memories of skiing at Briar Hill.

Sally Peters Nowak commented that her parents owned Timberline. Jason VanderHoff  says his family owned the Ward hills property from ’87-’98 and renovated the cabin. Todd commented on the Hickory Hills page that his Grandma Katie used to run it. He never skied there and would like to know more. Bob says that he came up to ski at Royal Valley to fulfill a Notre Dame phys ed requirement. They skied there twice a week between January and March of ’79.Carrie promised to send a picture of Royal Valley. She says she has quite a few. David Siekman says he was a patroller at Royal Valley for about 13 years. His dad was the patrol director there and he has many fond memories of great times at the place.

Margo says she will gather some information for us about Bremer’s Ski Hill near Sutton’s Bay. She remembers that the dads helped with the operation of the tow and hill while the moms made hot chocolate in the old farmhouse.

Tim Carr says he skied Skyline in the ’90s and has a window sticker he would send to Gary Gariglio if he would like it. We says that he should send a picture if it to us, first. Lois Tucker-Wubbenhorst replied to Skier on the Skyline page that she skied from age 4 thru HS, her father was a part owner. She has many fond memories of the area. Martin Otberg commented on Briar Hill in reply to Jay Benda that he remembers jumping there and a trip to jump at Iron Mountain. Robert Mosford says his brother-in-lay’s father was one of the founders of Walloon. He says there is a Walloon patch on the wall of the Nub’s Nob patrol room and he will send us a picture. Don posted a link to a map of ski areas from the Detroit Free Press from 11/03/1961 on the MILSAP Update page.

Now the BIG NEWS: we have heard of TWO new lost areas (NO, not current areas that are suffering from the lack of snow and traffic this season–real old time areas). The first is Ford Mountain near Berrian Springs, passed on by Kathy. She says it may have operated in the late teens or early ’20s (that’s 100 years ago!) The other is Mad Cap near Cadillac, passed on by Bob Sisco. he says it was M115, 5 miles east of M131. If you have ever heard of these areas or know anything about ski operations there, please let us know.

Please keep those comments coming to our blog and check out our Facebook page. We love to hear more about the old days (and modern days) of skiing in Michigan. And enjoy the rest of this Michigan winter (be careful driving in this snow that’s falling today), try to patronize Michigan ski areas, and THINK MORE MICHIGAN SNOW!

Bob Knox, Publisher
Michigan Lost Ski Areas Project

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