Mount Grampian — Oxford, MI

Home to at least one ski jump, Mt. Grampian had 3 rope tows. One reference mentions a double chairlift and several surface lifts. One comment posted below mentions a book reference to its being constructed in 1957. If you have any information about skiing at this area, please submit it. See the “About MILSAP” page for directions.

In 1959, Sports Illustrated noted: A $15,000 1000′ Pomalift with a 100′ rise was installed. On Dec. 24, 1959, The Luddington Daily News ski report listed Mt. Grampian with 2″ new snow over a 4″ base and fair to good skiing. On Feb. 10, 1961, the same paper listed the area as having 2 to 3″ fresh powder on top of a 8 to 15″ base for good skiing. reports that in 1971, Mt. Grampian installed a 685′ Sneller double chair with a 110′ rise.


Alan O’Connor submitted the following picture of a patch he purchased on ebay and a satellite map pic of the area today.


George Black forwarded the following lift ticket, brochure and direct mail flyer by US mail so I could scan them for you. He says they are from the reopening of the area in 1987.

An actual lift ticket from Mt. Grampian, undated

An actual lift ticket from Mt. Grampian, undated (do you think it’s still good?). Thanks to George Black for the great materials to scan.
Mt. Grampian Brochure, undated

Multi-color glossy brochure for Mt. Grampian (as their sign and the inside pages say) or Grampian Mountain (as the outside of the brochure says). Thanks to George Black.

Inside of Grampian Brochure, undated

The monochrome inside of the Grampian Brochure. Thanks to George Black.

Outside of a Direct Mail Flyer for Grampian, 1987

The outside of a direct mail flyer for Grampian sent in Nov. 1987, thanks to George Black. Contains a coupon for 1 hr racquetball court time (sorry, expired April 1988).

1st inside page of Grampian flyer, 1987

1st inside page of Grampian flyer, 1987. Details all their services and prices. Thanks to George Black. (What is Wally Ball?)

2nd inside flyer page, 1987

Grampian’s opening day announcement for the 1987-88 season–Fri., Nov. 20, 1987. Get Ready . . . GO!

Grampian flyer inside page 3, 1987

This page announces Grampian’s New Year’s Eve Party to welcome in 1988; formal dress, chicken, fish, or ham, $60 per couple drinks included and pizza at midnight. Music by C.J. Sounds. Thanks to George Black for the copies.

Mike Kurschat forwarded the following pictures of Grampian via email. He says they were taken in 1991, after the area had been closed for a few years.

The abandoned Grampian lodge

The abandoned Grampian lodge, 1991

The abandoned hill and chairlift.

The abandoned Grampian hill and chairlift, 1991.

A view of the closed Mt. Grampian Ski Area.

A View of the Closed Mt. Grampian Ski Area, 1991

63 Responses to Mount Grampian — Oxford, MI

  1. Alan says:

    Back in the mid to late 90’s I worked with a guy who lived out that way when he was a kid. That was the first time I had ever heard of Mt Grampian. He told me he would go skiing there with his school. He also remembered how the club house was really close to the bottom of the hill. He said you would have to turn quickly to avoid running into it. I now live in Oxford. I’ve tried looking for it as I cruise past on Lakeville Rd but I can’t see anything through the trees.

    • luke says:

      Go east on lakeville road…when you pass grampian road, go a couple hundred yards and hill is on your right…there is a house at the bottom of the hill

  2. buddyglass737 says:

    My old man worked out there when he was in high school. He says it was back in 1962 or ‘63. I asked him about it the other day and this is what he told me about it:
    – The owner at the time was Canadian, and a thought of their business was Windsor ski clubs
    – They had at least one chair and 3 or 4 tow ropes
    – There was a ski jump, but it was later sold to a resort in the UP
    – It had a restaurant, ski rental, and pro-shop (where my dad worked)
    I can remember riding down Lakeville Road and still seeing the chair/tow rope poles up. If I had to guess, I’d say they yanked those down in the late eighties-very early nineties. I know the parking lot is still there, though probably not visible from the road.
    They had their wedding reception at Mount Christie in ’68. I think that was the year Mt. Christie closed.

    Since we’re on the topic, I’m kinda doing a history project on Pine Knob ski resort. Can anybody suggest any good, legitimate sources?

  3. rockinonldn says:

    Ah, Mt. Grampion. I remember it well as I worked there one summer. It was owned by a chap from Windsor, Ontario, Mr. Pilsworth. He also owned a ski shop in downtown Windsor from which he ran ski trips from Windsor to Mt. Grampion. The best feature of Mt. Grampion was a young teen who lived near the hill — Karen Prier — she often hung-out at the club house. The young teen resembled the bubbly star of a ’60s television series but I can’t recall the name of the actress or program. Karen added real sparkle to a generally lackluster place.

  4. Dennis says:

    I remember taking Ski lessons in the late 60’s through the Detroit Free Press, I also remember a Saint Benard always laying in front of a huge fireplace…. Today I ride my Bicycle up Dranher Rd but have no Idea where the lodge was located. Great memories!

    • Daniel Brown says:

      The St. Bernard belonged to Nancy Pillsworth At the time, her father, Vern, owned Mt. Grampian as well as the Pillsworth Ski Chalet, (Ski Shop) in Windsor, Ontario. The dog’s name was Budweiser. “Buddy” I remember that Buddy developed an amusing talent for picking out a child at one of the picnic tables in the lodge…he would sit, quietly, watch the child eating and just quietly drool. Eventually, this behavior resulted in puddles of slobber on the floor and food being passed his way! I worked as an instructor for the Free Press program at Mt. Grampian in the 1970s. It was great fun for everyone!

    • Terry Ross says:

      It wasn’t on Drahner, it was on Lakeville Rd.

  5. Alan says:

    Thanks to the satellite view on MapQuest I’ve been able to locate the hill. Driving past it you can still see the parking lot. Its located on the south side of Lakeville Rd, West of Hosner and East of Grampian Dr. The entrance to the parking lot is directly south of where the East most part of Barr Rd meets Lakeville Rd.There is a small gate at the road stating that it is private property. To the West of the parking lot you can see the top of the hill over the tree tops. Also, I just scored a pretty sweet Mt. Grampian patch on eBay today.

    • MILSAP says:

      Thanks for the sat view and the patch scan, Alan, I posted them above. I remember sewing one of those patches on an old ski blanket I had back in the 60’s.

      • Daniel Brown says:

        Wow…come to think of it, I still have a little plastic name-tag that I wore when I taught skiing at Grampian. It’s in a jar out in the barn. When Gary Rowley left, I took over the ski school for a couple of years. When I changed “real” jobs, I had to give up. It was great fun while it lasted!

  6. Alan says:

    I checked out a book from the library called “History of Northeast Oakland County”. It was printed in 1976 so it’s pretty historical too. Anyway, near the back they have a year by year listing of business activity in the area through 1975. For 1957 it has “In Addison Township, a $100,000 ski resort was being built on Lakeville Road. This facility was later called Mt. Grampian.”

  7. kurt says:

    I live in oxford grew up near there too, too cool. Most of what you read is accurate, when they got in financial trouble during slow summer months, they tried other stuff by adding raquet ball courts and small gym, the tennis courts. Not much revenu, bute was nice when it was all new. They tried one summer by putting a you stear cart coaster car along tracks you race for best time down, w/ photo capture ending.The last ditch effort was when they tried a summer concert there, b.y.o.b. with like 4 local bands, and 1 semi national band cant remember who it was anyone know? they charged like 10$ per car load , and there were like carnival flyers sent out advertising it. When they closed and after 20 years my buddy steve ended up with one of the lift chairs! LOL!

    • rossky says:

      I have an aluminum ink plate used to print the poster for the event. I’ll take a picture of it to post if u remind me via email.

  8. Jason says:

    I have lived a mile east of Mt. Grampian since 1995 and have driven past it 2x a day since 1990. It has been closed as long as I have seen it. There used to be the old club house and some lifts or ropes you could see from Lakeville road where the entrance still is today, but they tore it all down in the early 90’s and the property was put up for sale and bought maybe about 5~8 years or so now. The new owners have done some type of work to the entrance and parking area, but have not seen anything new going on there for a couple of years.

  9. geoff smith says:

    Sanford “Sandy” aka “Butch” Blumenfeld was a high school racing phenom that got his start at Mt. Grampion. Butch went on to win the biggest race in SE Michigan for Bloomfield Hills High School: the Detroit News Interscholastic Meet at Mt. Holly. He is now “older than dirt” but still believes that Eckel made the best ski pole of all time.

  10. gary curatolo says:

    okay here we go … our family had a family membership at mt grampian 1961-1963.they had one poma lift and three rope tows. two to the east of the poma and one to the west.(the runs face north) on the west edge of the property was a wooden ski jump that was separate from the area. I saw several jumping competitions and it seemed like most of the participants came from the upper pennisula…. the poma was replaced with the worlds slowest chairlift in the early 1970s the vertical was limited and they could not compete with other local areas that made improvements gary curatolo

    • MILSAP says:

      I remember that chairlift. I don’t remembering it being THAT much slower than the old wooden-slatted Canyon Double at Mt. Holly that is now immortalized in the Lift Lounge where the old chair hangars (sans wooden slats, thank God) are the seats in the booths by the windows. Even the newer Canyon Quad, slow as it is, is faster than that, although Holly made up for it by installing the Mach One, southeast Michigan’s only high-speed detachable quad.

      • gary curatolo says:

        you are probably right by that time I was skiing mostly up north and started going out west and was exposed to faster lifts!!!!

    • Daniel Brown says:

      Well…you are right about the chairlift being slow, all right. The reason they ran the chair so slowly was the short off-loading area at the top of the hill..! After several pile-ups of beginning skiers…and constant tripping of the safety gate…it seemed like a good idea to run the thing more slowly. There were serious concerns about injuries. Yes…it was aggrivating. I did some of the maintenance on the chair for Rob Pillsworth back in those days. In fact, I built a new control system for the lift back around 1974. It was a nice lift and it could run much faster. That ski hill was a lot of fun. Regarding that old, wooden jump, West of the Poma lift: I remember my Father (who, in fact, held the distance record on the Bloomer Jump in Rochester), telling me as a little kid when he took me to Mt. Grampian for the first time, “Stay off that jump, over there. It’s dangerous!” Go Figure…

  11. Tom Bullard says:

    Light years ago, maybe 1961-62, my older brother and I entered ski races there. I still have the trophies. The had a slalom and a “downhill”. I don’t remember a chairlift, but rope tows and a pomalift. I kinda remember the big St. Bernard too. That was the only time I ever skied there. Great memories on this page. Had forgotten about Mt. Christie. Also, knew Geoff Smith from CUSSA and Detroit News Interscholastic racing days, way back when.

  12. Rich McMahon says:

    I wasn’t much of a skier, but Mt. Grampian was nice venue if you were a beginner. You had to learn how to stop quickly, as the slope ended quickly and a few hay bales were all that stopped you from the parking lot. I recall the tow rope stopping suddenly one particularly icy night, leaving skiers holding onto the frozen rope and swaying in the wind until it suddenly started, up, jerking those still holding on up the hill. I’ve looked for the slopes while driving on Lakeville Rd., but trees have grown over them, obscuring what was a nice ski resort way back when we were young….

    • Scott Guthrie says:

      I remember running into the hay bales the first time my father let go of me when coming down the bunny hill between his legs…

  13. Denine Boyle says:

    My sister and I were beginner skiers with the Grosse Pointe War Memorial Ski Club in 1967-68ish. What I do remember is the rope tows were sooo fast..I felt like my shoulder would be pulled out of its socket!! I often wondered what happen to the the old resort. I was recently golfing at Copper Hills and noticed Grampain Rd and thought .. I wonder if that is where Mt Grampian was?!! So I did a google search and here I am. Very fond memories..every Saturday on a bus to Mt. Grampian! I probably still have a patch I collected them all. Still skiing to this day!Where was Mt. Christie??

    • Karen says:

      Mt. Christie was on W. Davison Lake Road – west of M-24 and east of Baldwin Road. I remember going sledding out there in the late 70’s with my brothers. The old lifts and lodge were still there at that time but had been long abandoned. There is a subdivision of big homes there now – I believe the subdivision is called Mt. Christie.

  14. Grew up at this “resort” in mid 70s. My mother helped run the place with Rob Pillsworth, Feehan’s, Tebbon’s and way too many others for me to recall now. Skied there nearly everyday from 4th grade through 8th. Attended Kingsbury School where we skied Grampian every Friday afternoon, including with George Black’s children. Just came down canyon from helping Alta celebrate its 75th opening with my children and think how different things are since my childhood, yet a few things remain, and spending a day on the slopes of your local hill with family still rates. Too bad to see too few places remain in MI.

    • daryl says:

      lived just across street maybe 1/4 mile down. used to go and watch skiers. the original lodge building had a bavian style, and was abandoned around 1978? they had bingo, my grandmother and her neighbor would go to play there. the remod was done and the club with the courts was added. In mike kurschats third photo you can see both buildings, the old lodge on left, and the new club building with the racquet courts. the original lodge was very close to bottom of run. there was also a A-frame pump house very close to lakeville road. beside a small pond where the snowcannons drew water. I think the alpine slide only lasted one or two summers.

  15. Joe La Rue says:

    My first real ski experience was Mt. Grampian – circa 1963. We would return back several times a year, eventually scoring a family season pass – I believe it was the 1964-65 season – came to ski on a Sunday only to find a mound of smoking embers where the lodge had stood…so much for the season passes! Around this time there were 6 or 7 rope tows and one pomalift; off to the east, the mystical jump. Never went back and am somewhat surprised to hear that it was resurrected in the ’80’s(?) but would credit Mt. Grampian for planting the seed for my life-long love of the sport.

  16. Mark Prell says:

    Skied for the first time at Grampian, 1957. I was 7. My dad took me out of school and dumped me on the bunny slope (far eastern end). Didn’t buy me a lift ticket, so I climbed up and (sort of) skied down all day. Had a ball (as 7 year olds usually do). I remember the lodge had a player piano and I figured out how to play it. A few years later they had night skiing there. Went there with our high school ski club once.

  17. Charlie Savage says:

    I remember our 6th grade Brookland Elementery ski club would go there weather permiting in the early 70’s. Many great memories there. I remember the juke box in the corner seemed to always be playing Gordon Lightfoots new hit, If You Could Read My Mind. It was always a lto of fun there for me.

  18. Alan says:

    I stumbled across this today on a virtual hall of fame site about the creator of Grampian (among others).

    Without a doubt, Joseph F. Kosik Sr. has been one of the most prolific and influential builders of the ski industry in the Midwest. A graduate of the University of Michigan Law School and a veteran of the Unites States Air Force, Joe Kosik acquired his love of skiing while stationed in Germany.
    His dream was to bring skiing close to his home in Metro Detroit. In 1957 he put this dream into action with the formation of Mount Grampian in Oxford, a town approximately 40 miles north of Detroit. In its heyday, Mount Grampian had a poma lift, eight rope tows, a ski jump and lights for night skiing.

    Clearly successful with Mount Grampian, in 1959 Joe set his sights on another area in southeast Michigan – Alpine Valley Ski Resort on M-59 in White Lake. There he expanded the ski area by adding numerous chairlifts. He then moved on to Wisconsin in 1964, where he built a second Alpine Valley. Never resting, in 1970 he began the tedious process of developing Devil’s Head Resort in Merrimac, Wisconsin. Once completed, the resort consisted of a 92-room hotel, four chairlifts, a rope tow, ten runs, and a variety of bars and restaurants. At the same time, Joe Kosik’s company, JFK Investments, purchased Mt. Holly Ski Area in Holly, Michigan and within the first three years, added four chairlifts.

    Now firmly committed to bringing skiing closer to population centers in the Midwest, he purchased a partially developed ski area in southwest Michigan, designed and built it from the ground up and in 1982 Bittersweet Ski Resort of Otsego opened with three chairlifts and three rope tows. Developing a loyal skiing clientele in that area was challenging, but nothing that Joe Kosik couldn’t handle. In order to entice more skiers, he purchased busses and provided transportation from local schools, which proved to be a big success.
    In 1988 Joe Kosik purchased Pine Knob Ski Resort in Clarkston, Michigan from the Nederlander family. With a willingness to make improvements and now with years of successful ski area operation under his belt, Pine Knob soon became one of the popular destinations for skiers across the Metro Detroit area.

    Through the years, Joe Kosik has continued to make improvements to the ski areas he owns and operates. In 1997 a high-speed detachable quad chairlift was installed at Mt. Holly, the first of its kind in the lower part of the state. Last year a new high-speed detachable quad chairlift debuted at Alpine Valley in Wisconsin. Bittersweet Ski Area is also benefited from a new triple chairlift, which was installed last year.

    As a conservative estimate, the ski areas that Joe Kosik has owned and operated have introduced over three million people to skiing and snowboarding in Michigan and Wisconsin. It is easy to see that his efforts have greatly benefited the ski industry in Michigan and across the country, as these new skiers purchase equipment, take vacations venturing out to slopes farther from their home, and come back to teach their children and their children’s children about the love of skiing.

  19. Mark Prell says:

    Thanks Alan. Growing up in S Michigan I skied all of those areas many times. Great memories. Surprized to hear there is a detach at Mt. Holly. Must take all of 45 sec to get to the top.

  20. gary westrick says:

    hi everyone… I grew up in Marine City & we used to go to Mt Grampion, Mt Holly, MT Dryden, Pine Nobe, Alpine Valley… Silver Bell! 50-60’s

    Gary Westrick

  21. gary westrick says:

    Mt Grampion had a ski jump back in the day… also in Port Huron, Wadhams there was Black Forrest & out in Blain, there was Jack Pine!

    Gary Westrick

    • MILSAP says:

      Gary, are you saying that Black Forest and Jack Pine has ski jumps?

    • Colleen Driscoll says:

      Hi Gary,
      Fell into this site quite by accident by way of a post on Facebook. Curious… I went to school wth a Bill Westrick in Lake Orion, graduated class of 82. Any relationcdris?

  22. MILSAP says:

    Robert Rhoades left the following comment on the Mt. Grampian jumping page. I thought it might be more visable here: “I have fond memories from Mt Grampian Ski Area from the 70′s. Our alpine ski team practiced at Mt. Grampian instead of having to drive all the way out to Mt. Holly… around 1974 or so. At that time, Bill Miilu was our coach at Pontiac Catholic High School (Member of SEMSL). We would start the lifts ourselves and ride up with no operator. I remember that the front run on the “skiers left” was fairly steep for S.E. Michigan. Those bamboo slalom gates would beat you up pretty good. They were even harder to get in the ground, using a steel spud to drive into the frozen ice/snow, wreaking havoc on your leather gloves. The grooming was not the best, but they did make lots of snow. There was also a rope tow that would serve to the top, but our hands and arms would get tired by the end of practice. Hot chocolate and candy would be our dinner for the eve, being served in the small lodge at the bottom. Lots of fun with our high school ski friends.”

  23. David Weisenthal says:

    My father, a Ford Motor Company engineer, was a volunteer ski patrolman at Mt. Grampian in the late 1950’s and early 60’s. He’s now 99 years old, lives in Florida, and still swims a mile each day. I’m not entirely certain when my brother, two years older than I, and I first began skiing Mt. Grampian but I do know it was before the “new” poma lift was installed. My impression has always been that it was in 1958, which would be consistent with the 1959 installation of the lift. At first, we thought the shiny new poma lift was the height of luxury – no more greasy rope chewing through our gloves when someone in front of us fell on the rope tow (although the friction did warm-up our hands). Very soon though, we discovered that the rope-tow went faster. Also, there was never much of a line for the rope – usually none at all at night – and so we tended not to use the poma lift very much. The ski jump was located to the right of the main slopes – on the other side of a narrow line of trees as one faced the main slope. My brother and I were just kids but we’d climb part way up the jump and go off from there. Nobody was ever over there to stop us and we certainly didn’t tell our dad that we were doing it. My brother was older and braver and so he’d start from higher up the jump than me. It was easier than you’d think because the landing hill was so steep that we didn’t really hit with any great force. I can’t recall that either one of us ever went off from the very top – and a good thing, too, since we weren’t using jumping skis. In the winter, my father brought his little camping trailer to Mt. Grampian for the ski season. It was parked in a corner of the parking lot and it was much cozier than the lodge. In summers, he kept the trailer at Elizabeth Lake – at Al’s Muscle Beach, owned by Al Martini. Although I wasn’t there to see it, my dad told us that, on at least one occasion, they used a hand-held machine gun (Dad called it a “burp gun” – a World War II expression) early in the morning, before the slopes opened, to break up a section of the hill that was frozen over with a hard layer of ice. Speaking of World War II, one of Dad’s fellow ski patrolmen had been a soldier in the German army. This would have been only 13 years after the war had ended and so this guy was still young, handsome, and very Germanic-looking – he would have made a great recruiting poster for the Wehrmacht. The guy’s son was my age and we’d sometimes ski together while our dads patrolled the slopes. My little ski buddy told me that his dad would sometimes put on his old uniform and walk around the neighborhood just to annoy the neighbors. It’s a wonder that no poor post traumatic stress disorder combat vet ever dispatched him. That has nothing whatsoever to do with Mt. Grampian, of course, except, I suppose, to illustrate a little local color of the place in those years.

  24. It was definitely called “Grampian Mountain” (as opposed to “Mt. Grampian”) in the 1950s. Although both names were presumptuous, the former was egregiously so. Still, many happy memories, back in the day. – Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach CA

  25. James Baruth says:

    I was considering my youth, and behold, flashback. Back in 1972, I worked the summer at Pillsworth Ski Chalet and Camping Centre, on Walker Rd. in Windsor. During the summer, Nancy rented a fleet of tow behind, pop up campers, tents and camping equipment, for vacationers. Late in the season, probably midweek, Vern Pillsworth ” borrowed ” me from Nancy to “tidy” the lodge. As a thirteen yr. old, I took great pleasure in climbing that hill, and being the master of all I couldsee, at least for a minute or so.

  26. Greg S. Key says:

    I was on the National Ski Patrol during the mid 70’s at Mt. Grampian and was ‘recruited’ by a couple of ski patrolmen by the names of Dick Bates and Larry Achionie (sp?) and ended up working with many nice people. My first experience there was to attend a meeting of the NSP that was to occur early in the morning the following day. The problem was that I lived in Harper Woods in the Detroit area and my car was down for the count. I didn’t want to be late for the meeting so I hitchhiked up to Mt. Grampian the night before and slept in an elevated shed at the top of the slopes. It was COLD! At least I wasn’t late for the meeting. During the time that I patrolled there only a chairlift and rope tows existed. During a ski swap Nancy Pillsworth set aside a pair of Kneissl skis she thought I’d like. I did, bought them and used them for many years. I thought that was really nice of her. I stopped patrolling there around 1976 as I had saved up enough money (not from patrolling, that was all volunteer) to go to Michigan State University full time. Graduated MSU in 1980 and moved out of state thereafter. I don’t have much chance to ski these days due to work obligations and the fact that I live in Savannah, Georgia. The weather here isn’t exactly conducive to skiing. I have many fond memories of the times and folks (Dick, Larry, Cole, Glen, Ron, Nancy and others) that I spent time with at Mt. Grampian. I hope they are all doing well. Those were good days.

    Greg S. Key (

  27. Mark L says:

    Me and my friends (I’m 16) sometimes sneek up there and snowboard, It’s a ton of fun! My dad told me about this place last summer. I live in oxford and live right up the street from this place and enjoy going because i don’t have to pay to get in (I know it’s probably illegal) and its a great place to shred!

  28. Dan H says:

    Mt. Grampian was the only place I ever skiied. One time, my Jr year in high school, in Jan 1978, after being talked into going with our church youth group. Had a ball learning to ski, using the rope lifts, trying to figure out how to turn, and it seems I rode the chair lift to the bigger hill once or twice. Hurt my ankle on some moguls at the bottom of what I thought was a smaller hill when I fell and the binding of the rented skiis did not release. Fortunately, the lodge was close, so I crawled to it and spent the rest of the day there. Turned out the ankle had a hairline fracture. Swim coach was not too impressed, as i missed a few weeks of the season. Stuck with cross-country skiing after that.

  29. Sandie says:

    My dad & uncle use to ski jump the bak in the 1960’s maybe earlier. I remember going there to watch them. My favorite part was going in the ski shop to get hot choc with marshmallows in it!!
    I still have pictures of my dad jumping there and I think a patch from there as well!
    It’s my favorite sport to watch on TV too bad they don’t show more of it!!

  30. Andrea says:

    Mount Grampian is now used for charity, Faith Farms. They grow fresh produce and donate it to local families through Oxford/Orion FISH. Still making memories with local families!!!

  31. John Sanderson says:

    I worked in New Baltimore 1976-77 at Lionel Trains on 23 mile road. We went after work to a ski place that I thought was way west on 23 or 26 mile road, not near any kind of city. I thought it was in Washington Twp. not as far as Oxford. I live in Oakland now, but at the time lived near Martin & Groesbeck.

    It was dark at 5PM, so I really had no idea where I was. I was out of practice, not very good, and took the rope tow up to the top of the bunny hill. When I came down, I forgot how to snowplow or even turn, & though for sure I was going to hit the tow rope building. My alternative was hitting the raised parking logs that were just below knee height. At the last moment I saw a gap between the building & the logs, thinking I could try & grab the building as I went by. Apparently they shoveled all of the snow from in front of the door to that gap. I hit this little hill, feet went up, & landed flat on my behind. I was laughing so hard from missing serious injury, that I have no other recollection of the place.

  32. Dave from Lanse Creuse High School says:

    I remember skiing at Mt Grampian in 1977. We were there with the High School ski club.
    My friend and I learned how to steer and stop sideways pretty good. Near the end of the evening we were stopping almost in the parking lot. Going straight down from the top with out turns. It was like a competition. Get as much speed as you can and stop as fast as you can. So much fun. Still do it today. I’m 51. It never gets old.

  33. Mary says:

    My friend and I need a credit in Phys. Ed. from University of Detroit in 1984 and took a ski class at Mt. Grampian. It was an easy A, we learned some more skiing skills and had a lot of fun at the lodge afterward.

  34. Mark Gill says:

    I, along with my Mom, Dad, and brother, spent the first 12 winters of my life practically living at Mt. Grampian. I remember it from when it just had the one ski lodge with the big fire place and the A-frame ski patrol shack. I was there when Rob (owners first name) built the racket ball courts and the restaurant (best onion rings I’ve ever had). He always talked about expanding the area but it never happened apparently. My dad was good friends with Rob and also served on the ski patrol at Mt. Grampian for about 5 years. My dad also ran the ski club for Clausen Jr. High school which came to Mt. Grampian every Friday. My last year skiing there was 1980. M

  35. Tracy Sanders says:

    Hi my name is Tracy Sanders my parents worked there likes 1970 through 73 Fred and Barbara we live in Alaska we moved here when I was eight from Oxford surprised to see this on the Internet i’m a commercial fisherman in Kenai Alaska I grew up on Center Street

    • Karen says:

      OMG Tracy Sanders! My name is Karen and my best friend Sue and I were your neighbors on East St. and Glaspie. You had a sister named Trisha, right? We used to go to Mt. Grampian with you when your mom worked in the ski shop and she would get us in for free. I was never any good at skiing but we had lots of fun hanging out trying to ski with you and your cousin (Roy?). After you moved away, we still went out there a lot with the neighborhood gang. I hope you remember me (us) as I have so many great memories of those days in the neighborhood and especially of you, Sue, and the “clubhouse” in your back yard! Hope you are doing well!!!

      • hi karen i been looking for you and sue for year now yes you are right about trisha Roy ,passed away 7 year ago im on facebook now or give me a call 907-776-4068 hm. 907-690-0189 leave message i will get back

  36. T. Yearego says:

    I am looking for any type of ticket, brochure, or possibly a trail map from Mt Grampian that I can scan and frame for an old friend for Xmas. Thank you for any assistance

  37. Trish Ellis says:

    My uncles, aunts and my dad the “Ellis kids” went their all the time… They lived/live across the street. My whole life I’ve been sledding down Grampian… Now its sold and someone built a house and lives their… Good memories on that hill!!!!

  38. sandy Horn says:

    lots of great memories as a child yes our family the Horn children grow up just down the road on the firm and we all took a turn working had are beautiful mt even my brother bill horns funeral was on the mountain

  39. Craig Condon says:

    A friend and I started snowboarding in 1981. This was way before most ski areas were open to snowboarding. I don’t remember what year it was, maybe a year or two after we started, ’82 or ’83 we discovered that Mt. Grampian allowed us to snowboard there. It was the first ski area that allowed snowboarding in Michigan, and heck who knows, maybe the country. One particular day we went there after a hard snow and had the best run in some of the deepest powder I have ever experienced. I’ll never forget that place, or the powder runs we had that day. I only remember the three rope tows. I think it wasn’t until the 90’s that most ski areas opened up to snowboarding.

  40. RWL11 says:

    Am I going to be the first one to mention the BMX racing they held there? I think I raced there twice. The track was real steep, and racing at night made it even more adventurous. This was probably about 1980 or so, give or take a year or 2.

  41. Kevin Ulman says:

    I learned to Ski at Mt Gampian in the 75′ – 76 season. My elementary school, Kingsbury, let out early every Friday during the ski season and we would go to Mt Grampian as a group. I believe the school still skis on Fridays, now at Mt Holly. I have great memories of Mt Grampian and would love to go out there and look around. I stopped skiing in 1990 and took about a Twentyfour year hiatus from the sport. I am not sure how I forgot how much fun I had with this sport, but, I am glad to have found it again. For the longest time I couldn’t find anyone who even remembered Mt Grampian. I am pleased to read all of the memories everyone has shared here. It brings back so many fond memories of a much simpler time in my life. Thank you all.
    I live in Howell Michigan now and am a regular at Mt Brighton during the ski season. Anyone from Kingsbury circa 1976′ that would like to meet up for a few runs and more beers – I’ll be looking for you.

    Kevin Ulman

  42. L. David Arscott says:

    Hi Scott,
    I am guessing that your dad was Dan Guthrie, my name is Lewis David Arscott and in the 1940’s
    my family lived outside of the Rochester Village on Bloomer Rd right across the road from the
    Frank Farm (my grandparents, now Penny Reddish my cousin lives there). In those years a
    ‘young Guthrie’ girl would babysit me and my older sister, Patricia. By 1949 my family moved
    to the village of Rochester and in the 1950’s Dan and his wife (name?) and kids would pick me
    up to go skiing out side of Oxford at Grampian, and my understanding was that this hill area was
    rented to the ‘Rochester Ski Club’, the members being Dan his wife and I have no clue who else.
    I remember going up there in late fall to ‘hand-whack’ the tall weeds on the hill for the winter
    season, and then at the first snow take the rope-tow gasoline engine up the hill on a toboggan and
    then stringing up the rope. We would meet on several occasions in either in Rochester or Oxford
    for a ‘cookie’ sale to raise money for this club. On many occasions Dan and family, would ask if
    I wanted to go skiing up north at the Caberfae ski area and of course, yes, with those memories
    still burning fresh in my memory. Another ski area was Briar Hill outside of Mesick, MI where
    Dan and other jumpers would go for official Jump meets. Probably in 1952 or ’53, I went along
    to do downhill skiing while Dan competed in the Jump meet. After the meet was finished Dan
    persuaded me to give it a try. Reluctantly I said yes and using his much larger and heavier skis I
    climbed to the top of this awesome structure and went down the jump only to land falling back
    from the momentum on my butt. In retrospect, the adrenalin rush was so great that I went back
    up the hill for another try but fell doing the same thing, I probably looked like a ‘shot duck
    falling out of the sky’. On the third try, as I landed, I caught a right ski tip and managed to
    fracture my angle. BTW (By The Way), on the ‘Briar Hill’ Webb site I think I also saw a
    comment by a Dan Guthrie, with similar notes about his dad being a ski jumper.
    If you are interested in communicating outside of this Webb site, I can be reached at:

    • Scott Guthrie says:

      Pretty close guess Lewis. Dan Guthrie was my Uncle. His younger brother (11 yrs) was Ralph who was my Dad. They were both great jumpers in their youth and took up downhill skiing. I remember watching them both compete at tournaments at Briar Hill. I got started skiing at Mt Grampian. My Uncle Dan and Aunt Joyce became fond of making ski trips to Winter Park, CO. Our family soon followed and I enjoyed many trips with my father, brother and aunt and uncle. All the Guthrie’s have passed that lived on Wilcox over by John R road except for two of my aunts, Janice and Margaret. The other Guthrie girl’s were Jean and Mary. I think the last time my Dad jumped was 1972 at Mt Grampian.

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